tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8096444661807925941.post103946724199905576..comments2024-01-25T23:03:24.253-08:00Comments on STAND: About Anti-SNSD Fan Culture: Anti-Fans are Jealous of SNSDSTAND Intl. is:http://www.blogger.com/profile/08925388648380413028noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8096444661807925941.post-91849230339844357852009-03-05T19:16:00.000-08:002009-03-05T19:16:00.000-08:00Ok so I'm not an Anti but do I agree with the dire...Ok so I'm not an Anti but do I agree with the direction your going. I find the image they represent to be...an insult to the women and girls of this generation. I find their image to be antifeminist with some very strong pediophile agendas (not a morning musume fan either) The lollipops they lick seem to suggest something else other than lollipops (coughs)<BR/>I also wonder why if it was jealousy, artist like BoA, The Grace and Jang Riin don't have such an intense Antifan base. <BR/>As for Anti's out there, if there is something worse than hate, than it would be indifference, giving them so much attention is a waste of your time and only heats up fans even more. Stand strong and ignore them if you hate them so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8096444661807925941.post-48638839499302586332008-09-28T17:47:00.000-07:002008-09-28T17:47:00.000-07:00aienbestFirst of all, welcome to STAND!No, I think...<B>aienbest</B><BR/><BR/>First of all, welcome to STAND!<BR/><BR/>No, I think the members of STAND are not Fans of SNSD, you do know what STAND stands for? 'Strong 'Till All Nine Disappear'. Common sense would tell you, that we are not very favourable towards them. Though regarding your first 'point' I find contradicting the obvious (Yes thats what SNSD fans do) is getting quite ridiculous.<BR/><BR/>I, personally (And probably most STANDers)do not hate the members of SNSD, STAND is actually doing this for the 'Love' of our fandom, not everything is so shallow, dear(If you're so curious about anti-fans why dont you read our Agenda). Though SNSD fans have showed time and time again their 'Hate' for Antis, you also happen to be one of them. I am referring to the video upon video sugar coated with malicious references to Anti fans. So, before you accuse us of hating, try seeing if it refers to you also, and your fellow fans, ofcourse, you are One (S<3ne to be exact) so it only make sense that you share the burden, correct?<BR/><BR/>If you're going to be interested in a countrys music industry, you have to understand the culture and society also. Most of these girls that you are defending are legally adults in South Korea(That means you have to start taking responsibility for your actions ;) ), they have been in the news for their acts of disrespect and were forced to apoligize in one occasion. Respect for your seniors and elders is suppost to come second nature to Koreans. Being representatives of the 'Girls Generation' and public figures (And also being trained by SM and educated in the matter of manners and decorum) they should be especially careful, yet they choose not to, and repeat the offences even after 'Apoligizing'. And you're defending that?<BR/><BR/>Yes, STAND encourages civility and maturity in posts. Can't say so much for you and your obvious cheap attack at the writer of the post. I know you feel insecure in your fandom, but coming on our grounds and trying to verbally attack one of our members is just low. Sugar coat your words all you like, the malice behind it cannot be missed.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the well wishes though,<BR/>You take care of yourself too~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8096444661807925941.post-85316489716705648632008-08-29T17:15:00.000-07:002008-08-29T17:15:00.000-07:00unnie fan- I'm not an anti; just neutral. I don't...unnie fan- I'm not an anti; just neutral. I don't care for their songs (urgh, too cutesy and immature for my tastes) or their personalities because while some find their arguing and bicking endearing, I find it.... embarrassing? They're supposed to be role models, but then they act like they're nine, so yeah. However, in regards to the "They're new, Tiffany's still learning." Um.... Tiffany's trained for three years already prior, she should know by now. As for the rest, I'm sorry, but to be recognized in the industry as a respectable artist, you have to be professional and careful about what you say at all times. I don't remember BoA pissing anyone off when she debuted because of her words and she was FOURTEEN... and had only trained for two years. Frankly, age and experience is no excuse for disrespect, especially in Korea and Asian cultures in general, where respect for your elders is such a big thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8096444661807925941.post-73614734362892178962008-08-24T04:32:00.000-07:002008-08-24T04:32:00.000-07:00i'm an unni fan of the girls, and i just want to s...i'm an unni fan of the girls, and i just want to say few things.<BR/><BR/>1. are you sure you're not a fan? you seems to know a lot 'bout them.like a fan..hehe =p<BR/>2. it's okay to dislike other people but, to hate? dear, hate is not good for you..<BR/>"Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated." <BR/>- Coretta Scott King, author<BR/>3. the girls are being disrespectful? they're just young girls.. i was kinda rude when i was younger too. hehe<BR/>4. nice writing. how old are you? i bet you're good in school.<BR/><BR/>take care.aienbesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11694189843895379879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8096444661807925941.post-53721884232843212008-08-10T12:04:00.000-07:002008-08-10T12:04:00.000-07:00First of all I want to thank all the people here. ...First of all I want to thank all the people here. You dislike SNSD but you talked politely about them.<BR/>Really, thank's...<BR/>I know that a lot of antis aren't jealous of them but there are a lot of immature ones that are really jealous. But well, that's why they're called immature.<BR/>What I don't understand it's the<BR/>'' plastic generation or the slut generation''. They don't choose their outfits and what if some of them had plastic surgery? I don't see any thing bad about it. A lot of artist had. Calling them sluts it's too... rude.<BR/>I also don't understand why do people say that they're talentless.<BR/>They're just like Suju. Each member has a different skill and that's why there are so many members.<BR/>All the members can sing but it's just that Taeyeon and Jess are better than the rest. Tiffany, Seohyun and Sunny can sing too.<BR/>Hyoyeon is an excellent dancer. Yoona and Yuri are good at acting, modeling and dancing. Sooyoung can act, model and mc. Some members are good at english, some at chinese and Sooyoung is good at japanese.<BR/>THAT'S WHAY THEY'RE NOT CALLED SINGERS. They're an IDOL group. <BR/>And we can't blame the whole group because of Tiffany. <BR/>I always respected the opinion of the antis of hating the girls and I always talked politely to them.<BR/>I don't problems with you. Everyone can hate and love. What I can't stand is that some immature antis just hate them because of the surgery or their outfits. Are these reasons to hate them? NO.<BR/>Because of being disrespectful? Maybe. Think about the rest of the girls. Should they be hated because of some members? (Tiffany)<BR/><BR/>However, thank's for being mature and talk nicely about the girls.<BR/>(Sorry for my eng)<BR/>I really want to apologize because some SNSD are really immature and they hurt a lot of people. Mostly antifans and their idols. But I know, antis are people too. Althought i can't do anything for that I really wanted to say... SORRY :( <BR/>But Please, forgive the kindhearted and mature SNSD fans.<BR/><BR/>Take care~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8096444661807925941.post-36752252563348934182008-08-10T00:24:00.000-07:002008-08-10T00:24:00.000-07:00i'm not good at english but as snsd fan i want to ...i'm not good at english but as snsd fan i want to respond to some of your comments.<BR/><BR/>1. i don't think antis are jealous. hate can't be that simplified. we know it's more complex than that. <BR/><BR/>2. and about the part you said 'all the bad rumors there exist about SNSD, many of which haven't been cleared up in a cohesive article by the fans if they aren't true'- well, because we thought there's no point to respond to *every single nitpicking*. personally i started to write some counter-argument(of course, in korean) then i feel silly. i thought 'what's the point? antis will be antis.' <BR/><BR/>i don't know if you're in korea, there're always plenty of fanwar with or without snsd(lately, argument about seo taiji heats up), so i really didn't pay attention to what antis have to say.<BR/><BR/>again you have a point. maybe snsd fans should be more active about doing counter-argument. like writing cohesive article about rumors(in korean and english).<BR/><BR/>3. about the girls being disrespectful- they pay respect. they're paying their dues. korean media is not kind to newcomers. if ther're rude like some of you think, no producers or advertisers will hire them. you can just leave that part to industry people. you only saw some tiny bits of variety shows which is still awkward for girls, especially tiffany who's still learning korean. please don't judge them by those.<BR/><BR/>i want to add more but this is time all i have right now. i'm one of many unnie fans of snsd. so i can't really relate to some teenage girls' feeling toward snsd. this article was helpful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8096444661807925941.post-42874230600223718142008-07-30T18:45:00.000-07:002008-07-30T18:45:00.000-07:00Wow. This was nicely put. I think SNSD fans should...Wow. This was nicely put. I think SNSD fans should seriously have a look at this, although I highly doubt some of them would actually take the time to read something like this. Immature ones would probably just skim through it and then start bashing because they can't seem to accept the fact that not all Anti-SNSD fans are jealous.<BR/><BR/>That's probably one of the most retarded (sorry, I had no other way to put it) points. Sure, there are those extremists who are jealous but really now. The Grace, BoA, and LiYin have been pretty close with these pretty-boys yet they haven't earned this many antis before. So all in all, the reason for Antis hating SNSD is not because of that one little reason but everything put together.<BR/><BR/>I'm not entirely sure if I could be considered as an anti because I find their songs pretty catchy and bubbly, but I most certainly dislike every single person in the group. Well, less on Yuri but that's besides the point.<BR/><BR/>As stated by marmar, the emotion jealous has to do with wanting somethint that they can't have, and I'm most certainly NOT jealous. I'm a fan of them pretty boybands, yes, but I could care less about meeting them, much less want to 'marry' them/want to be with them.<BR/><BR/>SNSD fans shouldn't be generalizing the way they do, because sorry, that's not how the world works. Just because one fan is jealous it doesn't mean the rest are. They should look deeper into the situation and just accept what we think like how we accept how they think. With that said, I don't give a damn about whether they've been under the knife and I don't hate them because they've done so. Almost all artists go under the knife, so to single them out is just stupid and pointless.<BR/><BR/>Despite the fact I dislike these girls, I won't deny these girls of their minimal talent that they possess because some of them are considerably talented (Taeyeon and Hyoyeon).<BR/><BR/>But anyway, I went off topic--the main reason why they have so many antis: their disrespectful nature and riding on the coat tails of their seniors. Sorry, but without the constant promotion by SM and help of their seniors, they would've sunk a long time ago. Yet they are not grateful and go on and about by speaking rudely. <BR/><BR/>A few (or a lot) of SNSD fans claim that they're merely following the script and if they didn't, we would think they're dull bitches. No, we wouldn't. They could incoperate it with a different alternative. I'm sure it's not only THEIR scripts that have rude comments and that other artists have had scripts with rude remarks, yet I'm pretty sure they've circumvented it because whatdoyouknow.. they DON'T (or have considerably less) antis.<BR/><BR/>I apologize, but SNSD fans should find better points for supporting their beloved artists because the points I've mentioned above create many holes and are immensely weak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8096444661807925941.post-16811544992064482702008-07-23T09:30:00.000-07:002008-07-23T09:30:00.000-07:00Marmar-You just said everything that I wanted to s...Marmar-<BR/>You just said everything that I wanted to say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8096444661807925941.post-22749261406523969612008-07-22T14:52:00.000-07:002008-07-22T14:52:00.000-07:00wow i have to agree with this. i don't really ...wow i have to agree with this. i don't really consider myself an anti because i like sooyoung she's the only one i like because she seems nice & doesn't really care much for her image but i can't stand the group.<BR/>& no i'm not jealous i'm not even a dbsk fan or a ss501 fan. I am a suju fan but come i know i will never ever get a chance to really meet them so me being jealous because they are near them is like the stupidest argument a snsd fan can come up with against me.<BR/>also jealous? <BR/>to be jealous they have to have something that you want. & they have nothing i want.<BR/>i don't want their looks because they look like they been under the knife before & i prefer natural beauty over surgically enhance beauty.<BR/>talent? please I seen better talent.<BR/>Fame? what fame? their only well known in korea no one knows them in america so no..<BR/><BR/>So they have nothing i want to be jealous of.<BR/>I can't stand them because of the image they are suppose to portray.<BR/>They are suppose to be innocent pure girls yet how innocent is it really if your dancing around in mini skirts & showing off your belly? that's not innocent.<BR/><BR/>Plus they are disrespectful to others, they say things without thinking about the consequences.<BR/>That's why I don't like these girls.<BR/><BR/>They can run their mouths but when someone calls them on it they act like they don't know what they done then they go & cry about it.<BR/>Grow up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com